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Jul
21

Diamond Rap Sheet

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As I explain in my Diamond Prices article (with sample rap sheet photo), the diamond “rap sheet” is an industry price list for loose certified diamonds.  A diamond’s “rap price” is determined by three factors: size category, color and clarity.  Diamonds are typically sold at a discount “back” from the rap price.  So, for example, if a given diamond’s rap price is $5,000 per carat, then selling the diamond “30 back” would mean 30% below the full “rap price.”  So in this example, 30 back from $5,000 leaves you with $3,500 per carat.  Now, to find the price of the diamond, you must multiply the price per carat by the number of carats.  So, if in this example, the diamond is 0.75 carats, the diamond’s total price would be $2,625.

If you’re out there looking for the best diamond for your money, then please contact me, and let me know your budget and what you’re looking for.  I’ll sift through hundreds of thousands of diamonds online and help you find the perfect stone for you and your budget.  Unlike the other sites, I’m not looking to sell you anything – my advice is objective and in your best interest.

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Happy 4th of July everybody!

From Rapaport:

Interesting “Retail Quote” this week:

“Well, the traffic on comScore shows us down 9 percent. Our numbers, actually — our internal numbers — our traffic is a little bit up, about 2 percent. So…the conversion is about the same, but the average ticket size drops. People who used to — one cohort of customers who normally comes in twice a year and buys a $300 jewelry item, they’re coming in, but they’re buying a $180 jewelry item. And we see that sort of across the board, that kind of change.”— Patrick ByrneChief executive officer (CEO) of overstock.com

This next quote seems to fly in the face of all the evidence out there.  It also doesn’t square with the fact that the prices in the ultra-expensive diamond market have completely collapsed.

The annual world wealth report produced by Capgemini and Merrill Lynch found that the highest net worth people in the world lost an average of 19.5 percent of their wealth in 2008. Lifestyle spending by high net worth individuals was significantly reduced in 2008, but this demographic actually stepped up its investment buying of jewelry and other luxury items that are seen as a safe place to keep money, increasing these kinds of purchases beyond pre-recession levels.

Amazingly, diamond demand has actually increased in the past year in India:

With prices of polished diamonds slumping as much as 15 percent during this recession, in India they are increasingly being bought for investment purposes. Domestic consumption of diamonds has doubled during the past three months, from 2 percent to 4 percent of total production. Demand for diamond jewelry has also increased significantly during the past year. Jewelry demand rose by 25 percent domestically in the past three years, and by approximately 5 to 10 percent in the last year.

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Q: I’m looking for an Oval cut in the 2.5ct range I’m flexible on color and clarity but want a very good cut. Generally speaking what % off the rap would you expect for wholesale? Thanks for your input…

A: It looks like the “call stone” price for a stone like this is around 25% off rap.  That’s definitely not cheap, but that’s usually the case with unique stones.  It’s not too often someone goes around looking specifically for a 2.5ct Oval, so when they do, those who own them want to get a good high price.  If you would like some help in finding a good deal for a stone like this, then please let me know!  Good luck!

Q: I posted yesterday about a 2.5ct Oval and you stated you could help me find a good deal. I actually live in nyc, so if you have someone in the diamond district that you would recommend or could refer to me that would be great. Also, in the diamond district, I’m being shown a 3.01ct H Oval SI1, VG cut, sym, polish and girdle thin to vthick, no flor. It’s one of there own diamonds set in a ring (GIA Cert) They say, “We are willing to take a little loss on this one…$25,000″ What is really a fair price and what do you think it actually cost them?

A:  I see 2 3.01 H SI1s listed in NYC on an industry wholesale site.  One is listed for 27,600 and the other for 26,400.  Did you go to either Bellnor or Kashi?  (those are the 2 companies listing those stones).  So you can see, the price you were quoted is pretty good.  These prices are about 10-15% below Rap.

Anyway, I doubt the vendor you went to is really losing on that stone.  As I mentioned on the response to the comments, these kinds of stones are always listed for high prices on these industry wholesale sites because they know that if someone has that specific of a need, they’re going to end up paying for it.  Also, these kinds of stones, because of their lack of high quantities in the market, can have a very wide range of wholesale prices.

For example, I just found a 3.01 H VS2 in Israel (where business isn’t focused on “call stones” but on buying and selling and making quick small profits on the trades) for 25,826 which comes out to -35%.

Also, I just checked an online retail site and found an I SI2 3ct Oval for $17K.  Thats a big big savings over $25K and most likely you won’t be able to notice the difference in quality.  The vendor has a great return policy, so if you aren’t happy after you receive it, you can always send it back.  If you are interested, let me know and I’ll send you the link.

I have started offering a new diamond buying service where I will go into the diamond bourse in Ramat Gan (Israel’s diamond exchange) and buy the diamond for you for a 10% commission.  But in your case, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it because I also charge a non-refundable fee for my time which gets included in the commission if I end up buying something.  Since there’s so few available diamonds fitting your specific needs, it’s not worth your risk in paying me the up-front time fee.  It’s fairly likely I wouldn’t find a satisfactory diamond.

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Q: What price range would you expect for: radiant cut 2.06cts, color F clarity vs2, polish and symmetry vg, table 68%, depth 70%, dimensions 8.63 x6.42 x 4.5
fluorescence: nil (or faint depending on which certificate you follow(!)
thanks for your help

A: I have checked for similar stones on an online industry wholesale trading site.  I found two that match nicely to yours.  One is priced at 7,310 per carat and the other at 8,100 per carat (their respective total prices are 14,693 and 16,281).  These prices are on the very high end of the wholesale spectrum.  Companies like the ones who listed these two stones generally list them at a higher price waiting for somebody to have a specific call for a matching stone (in the industry, they are called “call stones.”).  So, in theory, you could find your stone for a similar price to the more expensive one.  I would say your price should be in the range of 16,000 to 19,000.

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Q: What price range could you give me for the following specs: emerald cut, Carat weight:1.03, Color grade: D, Clarity Grade: VS2, Polish: Very good, Symmetry: Good, Fluorescence:  Medium yellow, no additional clouds. Measurements: 6.83 x 5.06 x 3.49, Depth:  69.0%,  Table:  71%,  Girdle:  Medium to Very Thick.

A: I did a quick check on a diamond listing site for the diamond trade (not open to private customers) for the closest thing I could find to your stone.  Unfortunately, Medium Yellow is quite rare, so I could not find an exact match.  It seems that with no fluorescence, your diamond would cost around -40% rap (4140 per carat) at the wholesale level since it is such a nice make.  I would guess that the Medium Yellow would knock off around 5-7% rap points leaving the wholesale price of your stone around 3700 per carat.  Yellow is generally considered worse than the more common blue fluorescence.  Also, fluorescence always reduces the price the most when coupled with a “D” color.   So to figure a proper online retail price, add about 15-20% markup.

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