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Worth it to Fly UK to Dubai to buy a Diamond?
Posted by: | CommentsQ: I’ve been researching diamond buying for a while as I’m looking to buy an engagement ring in the next month or so. One of the avenues I’ve been considering is to fly over (from UK) to Dubai and visit the Gold Souk and Gold & Diamond centre.
Having read good and bad things about Dubai (Good: Tax free, can get real bargains…Bad: Can get ripped off, Dubai diamonds inferior quality, Buy diamond in sealed bag with cert, they don’t have good cut), can you please give your thoughts on Dubai for diamond or ring buying.
I have around £2k to spend as a total and want a princess cut, .5 to .75 crt diamond with a Gold ring (not platinum or white gold).
A: Unless you have another reason to be in Dubai, I think the idea is just going to end up costing you more money. There’s a few reasons:
1) While it’s true, in Dubai, most diamonds are sold sealed — there’s a reason for this. Nobody trusts anybody else. That’s fine, but the problem is that only IGI, HRD, and a local lab or two (that nobody really uses) offer the sealing service. GIA and AGS don’t. See my article about the different gem labs. IGI and HRD aren’t very reliable, so that combined with the unscrupulousness of the Dubai market would make me very wary of buying there.
2) if you’re budget is 2000 Sterling, the airfare and hotel is definitely going to be more than any VAT you’ll pay in the UK.
3) While it’s true margins in Dubai are very low due to the fierce competition, they’re not much higher, if at all, on a site like Blue Nile.
4) There is very little princess cut selection in Dubai. Demand for Princess cuts is much less in Dubai than the UK or the US, so stores stock very little of them.
What I recommend is buying a diamond on Blue Nile UK. You can have the diamond set in a simple gold setting on the site. I will go look for a stone that I recommend and send you a link via email.
Color & Clarity Matching Diamonds in Jewelry
Posted by: | CommentsQ: Ive just bought some earrings (multi stone GIA F/SI1 with very good cut/pol/symm) . I got f colour to match an uncertificated 5 stone ring thats been assessed (independently) as F/G SI1. I intend buying a pendant ( trilogy 0.33ct each or maybe graduated 1.5 ct total) and solitaire ring (1ct+) down the road. Do you think I should keep to f colour to match, or go down to g?? Also do you think I should upgrade to VS2 for the larger stones or use a broker to find a good SI1? and if so what would be a reasonable fee to pay??
A: Let me address your questions one at a time.
1) Regarding the color on the pendant, I think you can definitely go down to a G, and perhaps even lower. If having all of the pieces match is crucial to you, then going down to G will not pose a problem, but will definitely save you some money.
But my broader question would be, why are you so concerned with having the different pieces match? Are they sitting in a case together as a set or are they worn? If they’re on somebody’s body, then nobody will be able to tell that the earrings are an F while the pendant is an H or an I. They’re simply too far apart. Color matching is really only an issue within the same piece of jewelry (ie, side stones to match a center stone in an engagement ring, etc).
One important thing to note is that the savings in dropping from G to H are significantly greater than the savings in dropping from F to G. I can’t explain to you why that is, it’s just how Martin Rapaport built his price list. This is why, by the way, you find in markets such as Dubai that demand is much greater for H, I, and J colors than it is for G color. The upgrade in color to G just isn’t worth the premium you have to pay for it. Its called the “G Premium.”
2) When “diamond guys” need to buy diamonds for their loved ones, they rarely buy stones with high clarity (VS2 or higher) We know that all that matters is that no obvious inclusions should be visible to the naked eye. Unless your wife’s friends walk around with 10x loupes in their pocketbooks, nobody will ever be able to tell the difference. And this is only regarding rings where diamonds get the closest amount of scrutiny (envision women bringing their hands to their faces to gawk at their rings). With pendants and earrings, you have significantly more leeway to go lower in clarity. An I1 or even a nice I2 will still have great sparkle and life as long as the diamond has a nice cut. It’s a shame to spend more money on a high clarity stone that nobody will ever get close enough to to tell the difference.
3) Now regarding how to buy the lower clarity stones, I recommend buying from internet sites that provide high quality photographs, such as James Allen, so you can evaluate the inclusions for yourself to see if they will be visible or not to the naked eye. If you would like, let me know and I would be happy to scour some online inventory to find you a great stone(s) with great value.
The following was the reader’s response to my answer:
Ira
Thanks for your comments.
The internet ‘science’ suggests you get better performance from a high colour grade, but the general tenure of your comments seem to suggest what Ive suspected after ,
1) research on the web
2) looking at some high/medium quality stones,
and that is that the ‘science’ surrounding diamonds is largely a markeing device to create perception of luxury and price differentials, to maximise revenue?!
Smart Man. Learned the lesson quite quickly.
Is Dubai Gem Certification (DGC) the real deal?
Posted by: | CommentsQ: How about Dubai Gem Certification (DGS)? What do you think about certifcation from DGS?
A: Unfortunately, the DGC lab really only came out just as I stopped traveling to Dubai. I have sent an inquiry to a former colleague still stationed in Dubai. When I have his answer, I will post it to the website and let you know.
A little while later, I received this response from my former colleague:
Sorry to reply u late as i was in India and did’t check the mails since long
The market was really bad from oct 08 to feb 09 but from march there is a good pick up.
Regarding the lab no one is using this lab in Dubai.
if any thing u need plz tell
So as you can see, it seems the market in Dubai hasn’t taken this lab very seriously. It’s advised, then, to steer clear.

